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		<title>Commenting Should Be More Social, Discuss</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 18:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Simon Wood</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you find a blog post that&#8217;s interesting and you are motivated to comment on it, where do you discuss it? Â Once upon a time you&#8217;d have had the conversation right there, on the site, on that page. Â Essentially a one-to-one with the author, other posters reading it might come along and join in (perhaps [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you find a blog post that&#8217;s interesting and you are motivated to comment on it, where do you discuss it? Â Once upon a time you&#8217;d have had the conversation right there, on the site, on that page. Â Essentially a one-to-one with the author, other posters reading it might come along and join in (perhaps friends you recommended it to). Â Just as likely now, you make your recommendation along with your comment, on Facebook or Twitter, and the discussion kicks off there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been looking at commenting systems over the past couple of days. Â This is motivated partly by curiosity (a vast number of sites I look at offer login via something called Disqus) and partly because I think it would be neat if the conversations could be brought back together. Â Here are some of the advantages systems like <a href="http://intensedebate.com/">IntenseDebate</a> and <a href="http://disqus.com">Disqus</a> (the two of looked at) can offer:</p>
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<li>As a commenter you can log in with your WordPress/IntenseDebate/Disqus, Twitter, Facebook, Yahoo or OpenID identity.</li>
<li>When you make a comment it can be tweeted out to your followers as well. They&#8217;ll see not just a link to the post but also (the first part of) your comment.</li>
<li>Discussion elsewhere (eg. on Twitter) gets pulled back in so everyone reading the post can also see the discussion.</li>
<li>As a commenter you get a<em> lot </em>of control over the information you share about yourself, not just linking to your own website (as is typical on a comment) but also to your social network profiles etc.</li>
<li>As a commenter you get a lot of control over how the comments are displayed to you.</li>
<li>Commenters&#8217; profiles are also linked toÂ all their other comments. Â So if someone has said something interesting in response to a post, you can see what else they&#8217;ve been reading and what comments they&#8217;ve made on it.</li>
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<p>There are probably other things, those interested me the most.</p>
<p>There are some alternatives that can do just some of these things, and there are some drawbacks: Â There are plugins for WordPress that do 1 &amp; 2. Â (And, it turns out, 3). Â And the drawback with 6 is that it only applies where the commenter has commented on another blog that also uses the same commenting system (the classic dilemma for social networks/IM systems/mobile phones etc.)</p>
<p>Yesterday the Independent adopted Disqus. Â Now, I don&#8217;t read the Indy, but it was the final straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back. Â I installed Disqus on the blog, and it&#8217;s there now. Â But it might not be in a couple of hours. Â There are some niggles, in ascending order of niggliness:</p>
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<li>Reactions (which I call mentions) didn&#8217;t show up at first (though they do now).</li>
<li>A comment from 2007 got duplicated (but just the one!)</li>
<li>The counter which tells you how many comments (and mentions) there are before you go and look <em>is ALWAYS wrong</em>. Grrrr.</li>
<li>And (most seriously) it appears to have borked comments for those viewing the mobile version of the site.</li>
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<p>Also I don&#8217;t yet know to what extent I&#8217;ll be able to style the comments back how I want them (they&#8217;re functional and usable, but I want them to fit in with the Little Storping aesthetic!)</p>
<p>I can just switch Disqus off anytime. Â All the comments get duplicated into the WordPress system anyway. Â So, if I can do 1, 2 and 3 (using the Backtype plugin) how much value should I place on 4, 5 and 6.</p>
<p>Maybe the most important thing is what the users think&#8230; Â Oh. Ahem. Um, comments, please?</p>
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